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WHITE IRONSTONE NOTES VOL. 18 No. 1 SUMMER 2011 CONVENTION COVERAGE KEW PROJECT This newsletter covers some of the research of Patent Registries of white ironstone china found at the Public Registry Offices at Kew, England. You may recall seeing this threepiece Cameo Gothic butter tub (see above right photo) by James Edwards dated July 1844 illustrated in Vol. 8 #3 Pg. 4 of Notes. This wonderful piece was not always complete. Years ago the bottom piece and a lid that didn t fit it were found in Florida by Sally Scrimgeour and much later Janet Allers found two bowls. We all thought it had to be right because the lid fit the smaller bowl and it fit into the larger bowl. The lid even had notches to accommodate the two vertical tabs. The drawing (above left) is an image submitted for a patent registry. It illustrates the exact threepiece object collectors had assembled. It is clearly marked in script Cov. Butter Tub. The smaller covered bowl was for butter and we assume larger bowl below held ice or cold water. There may have been a bail handle as indicated by the holes in the tabs of the covered bowl.

Page 2 Vol. 18.1 WICA BOARD OF DIRECTORS Harry Moseley, President Bob Hohl,Vice President Carol Fleischman, Secretary Dave Klein, Treasurer Jeanne Atkinson Roland Bergner Jane Diemer Bev Dieringer Jim Miller Boyd Payne Dorothy Riley Barbara Tegtmeyer Don Wagner The WHITE IRONSTONE CHINA ASSOCIATION, INC. is a not-for-profit corporation whose purpose is to further our knowledge and enjoyment of white ironstone china. WHITE IRONSTONE NOTES is the official newsletter of the corporation. Photographs submitted by members become the property of WICA, Inc. and no article, photograph or drawing may be reproduced without the express permission of WICA, Inc. WHITE IRONSTONE NOTES is published and edited by Ernie and Bev Dieringer with associate editor, Jim Kerr. Drawings and photos are by Ernie and Bev Dieringer unless otherwise noted. Please send all news notes, articles, photos, suggestions, questions and listings for advertising or for the Spare Parts and Whole Pieces column to: WICA, c/o Dieringer 718 Redding Road Redding, CT 06896. 203-938-3740 e-mail Dieringer1@aol.com. WICA web page: www.whiteironstonechina.com ADVERTISING RATES Advertisements will be accepted in order of receipt from WICA members and, space allowing, from non-members. Rates (subject to change): $10 per column inch (7 lines). Nonmembers, $20 per column inch. Payment in full by check made out to WICA must accompany each ad. Send to newsletter address. PUbLISHING DEADLINES are Nov. 15 for Winter, Feb. 15 for Spring, May 15 for Summer, Aug. 15 for Fall. Members can list white ironstone Parts & Pieces Wanted and For Sale without charge in the Spare Parts column of each issue. APPLICATION FOR MEMbERSHIP Send $30 for one or two individuals at the same address with check made payable to WICA, Inc. to: WICA c/o Suzanne Nielsen PO Box 6052 Chesterfield, MO 63006-6052 e-mail: rn1132@earthlink.net Membership year is June 1 st to May 31 st. ADDRESS CHANGES e-mail rn1132@earthlink.net INDEX Pg. 4 Things We Discovered in the Public Records Office at Kew in England Pg. 8 Newly Discovered Shape Names Pg. 12 Show & Tell Pg. 17 Collection Management Committee Pg. 18 Spare Parts Pg. 18 Collectors Showcase FROM THE EDITOR S DESK Another Convention, number 17, come and gone. We realize that the thing we enjoy the most is seeing our friends. Many of them we have been in contact with over the year by phone and e-mail, but there are some we only see once a year. Over the years they have all become like family. Many we would probably never have met had it not been for our shared love of white ironstone. It s a wonderful thing. This convention was very satisfying for us because we could finally share our excitement over the Kew information that we have been working with all this last year. It was very gratifying to be able to pair an enlarged photo of the Kew registry with an actual piece of that particular design. More on that later in this issue. The first two articles in this issue will be followed in the Fall issue by an article on the modelers, (those artisans who made the molds for the dinner, tea, and toilet sets.) LETTERS In reading again the last WIN, I noticed that the same mark on the LaCombe Berlin Swirl sugar "MANUFACTURED FOR & IMPORTED BY Chauncey I. Filley, St. Louis, M.O. is on the bottom of one of the Pedestalled Gothic pitchers in our collection. There is no registry nor a potter's mark on the pitcher. I enjoyed reading John Yunginger's letter about this mark. Always a surprise taking a second look. Bertica Vasseur ********************************* The Morley tureen depicted in the last Newsletter is called "Fancy Foot", but I couldn't find that name in Kowalskys' Book. We displayed that tureen at one of the Conventions as "Lily Pad" because that is the embossing on its top and Morley also made a "Lily" Shape. Thanks for helping with the correct name. Bertica Vasseur ********************************* Naming a shape is difficult if you don t have the piece in your hands. It was impossible to see the lily pad finial detail from the frontal photo view. Now it makes great sense. So, from now on, this shape will be known as Lily Pad. ********************************* I will be sending an e-mail image of a child s cup and saucer we found on our way home from convention. Because of the faintness of the pattern and mark on the saucer, I am sending my try at duplicating the mark of Palissy China. Couldn t find any reference to this mark in my library of reference books. Any ideas? Thanks, Carol Fleischman *********************************

We found the mark on page 67 of Kowalskys Encyclopedia of Marks. Your photo of the mark was very good. Palissy China and the device in the center of VB, stands for Vodrey & Brothers Pottery Co.) East Liverpool, Ohio, USA, c. 1858-1928. I don t think we will find the shape name of the cup and saucer. ********************************* Attached are pics of cup plates we found on our trip. We ve not been able to find the shape. Any thoughts? Harry & Audrey Moseley ********************************* The only things we have found in this particular design have been on children s pieces, mostly tea set pieces. If anyone has seen this shape on larger pieces, and especially if there is also a mark, please let us know. ********************************* PRESIDENT S LETTER I m writing this as Audrey and I are winding down from the 2011 Convention in York, PA. It was great to be with all our WICA friends who make these events so memorable. This year the programs were especially interesting and I want to say thank you to some of the people who helped make it so. Program Planning Committee members Ernie Dieringer, Jane Diemer, Jim Kerr and Liz Volckening planned and coordinated exceptional education programs. The presentation by Jane Diemer highlighting findings from the Kew project was great and included a surprise visit by Sue Mussell, a member from England, who provided insights about her ancestor, potter James Edwards. Bob Hohl then gave a wonderful program on ironstone shapes which potters used as crossovers in their other wares such as flow blue, mulberry, transferware, lustre decorated, etc. Both programs required much preparation and were warmly received. Rick Nielsen and Patty Hurt presented another always enjoyable Show, Tell & Ask program that was fun and informative. Adele Armbruster did a fine job coordinating the trips and the convention events schedule. Her Off-site Auction Chairperson work produced another well-received auction. Ron Stork, On-Site Auction Chairperson, and his crew provided their usual fine work in helping provide a great auction. Raffle ticket sales were very active thanks largely to the work of the Bergners (Roland and Sue) and the Ulmanns (Chuck and Mary Ann). To those members who donated items to the Raffle and Silent Auction, a special thank you. These donations provide a clear profit to WICA and are much appreciated. Dave and Karen Klein spent much time and effort in the WICA Shoppe and deserve our continuing thanks. I could go on listing others who helped in many ways, but space is limited. However, you get the idea that a successful convention is the work of many people. Thanks to them all! The Convention Site Selection Committee has recommended, and the Board accepted, the Crowne Plaza, Independence, Ohio (near Cleveland), as the site of the 2012 Convention. The Program Planning Committee is already considering programs and trip planning has begun. Yours in collecting, Harry Winners of the Raffle Grand Loop toddy bowl, Karen Klein President vegetable dish, Boyd Payne Pineapple food mold, Carol Fleischman Wheat & Hops tureen, Jean McCabe Vol. 18.1 Page 3 NEXT ISSUES The fall issue will have information about ironstone modelers and the shapes they created. Honorary Lifetime Members Jean Wetherbee Ernie & Bev Dieringer Olga & Tom Moreland Rick Nielsen CALENDAR Area 7 Regional, September 10, 2011 Jill O Hara, Mt. bethel, PA WICA 2012 Convention, May 3-6 Crown Plaza Cleveland South 5300 Rockside Rd. Independence, Ohio 44131 216 524 0700 WICA SHOPPE WHITE IRONSTONE: A COLLECTOR S GUIDE Jean Wetherbee, $30.00 WHITE IRONSTONE CHINA, PLATE IDENTIFICATION GUIDE 1840-1890 Ernie & Bev Dieringer, $25.95 WHITE IRONSTONE TEAPOTS Ernie & Bev Dieringer, $25.00 WHITE IRONSTONE PITCHERS WHITE IRONSTONE PITCHERS II Ernie & Bev Dieringer, $30.00 each RELIEF-MOLDED JUGS book Volume II Kathy Hughes, $29.00 Single back issues of WHITE IRONSTONE NOTES ON DVD Vol. 1, No. 1 thru Vol. 17, No. 4, $95.00 A savings of $250 over printed issues. Yearly updates will be available. Packing & Shipping Charges Up to $25.00 $4.99 $25.01-$50.00 $5.99 $50.01-$75.00 $8.99 $75.01-$100.00 $10.00 Make check payable to WICA, Inc. and send to: Dave & Karen Klein 1513 Perry St. Davenport, IA 52803 563-514-7116 whoisbugs@q.com

Page 4 Vol. 18.1 THINGS WE DISCOVERED IN THE PUbLIC RECORDS OFFICES AT KEW IN ENGLAND This year s Convention focused on WICA s research at the Patent Registry Offices at Kew, England. A DVD is available of the power point talk presented by Jane Diemer. It is an overview of what was found on the patents applied for by the potters from 1840-1880. Another DVD is also available which includes all the patent images of white ironstone china that were found during the research project. (The WICA Shoppe has the information on purchasing these DVDs.) In the following article we are focusing on the new nomenclature (words used on the patents to describe the objects and their use) that was discovered during the research and in the article beginning on page 8 we are including newly discovered Shape names. In the Fall issue of Notes, we will include information on the elusive artists/sculptors (called modelers) found at the Kew Patent Registry Office. NEWLY DISCOVERED NOMENCLATURE We are starting with the word DISH because we discovered that it is their common word for many serving pieces. Dish = Platter #17572, Fluted Double Swirl shape by Jas. Edwards, Apr. 3, 1844. We call it a platter. This piece is described as a dish. Butter Boat = Gravy Boat #17566, Fluted panel shape by Jas. Edwards, Apr. 3, 1844. Gravy Dish = Well & Tree Platter #264081, Plain shape, Gelson Bros., July 13, 1872. What we call a gravy boat the patent registries have named butter boats and sauce boats. (Clarified butter, often with fine herbs - was a common Victorian sauce described in period cook books for meats, fish and vegetables) The tray under the boat is called a Stand.

Vol. 18.1 Page 5 Fish Dish = Platter #109738, Paris Shape, John Alcock, Apr. 16, 1857. Baking Dish = Baker #109738, Paris Shape, John Alcock, Apr. 16, 1857. Vegetable Dish = Covered Vegetable or Vegetable Tureen #209530, Senate Shape, Geo. Jones, July12, 1867 (to be made in 7,8,9, & 10 inch sizes). Service = Set #209530, Senate Shape, George Jones, July 12, 1867 - as in Dinner or Table Service Tea Service - Toilet Service, many examples were found in the patents. Covered Dish = Vegetable Tureen #92859, Apple shape, Barrow & Co. Oct. 10, 1853. Salad Bowl = Compote or Fruit Bowl #17570. We would call this Thomas Edwards early Fluted Pearl shape, Apr. 3, 1844. Dozens of other compotes were found on the images from the Patents.

Page 6 Vol. 18.1 Covered Muffin Dish = Pancake Server #91121, Plain Round shape, John Alcock, May 7, 1853. Butter Tub = Butter Dish #23209, Fluted Pearl, Thos. Edwards Dec. 7, 1844 ( part of a tea service). Sauce Boat = Gravy Boat # 51188, by Jas. Edwards, May 30, 1842. Sugar Basin = Sugar Bowl #23207, Fluted Pearl shape, Thos. Edwards, Dec. 7, 1844. These bowls were made with or without lids. Casserole = Stew/Chowder/Vegetable Tureen #45088, Cameo Gothic shape, James Edwards, Aug. 16, 1847. A stew/chowder/vegetable tureen because it was found in different sizes - with a ladle and ladle hole on its lid. It has also been found without a ladle hole as in the drawing for this Patent. Jug = Pitcher #1141. Gothic Apostles shape, Charles Meigh, May 17, 1842. On the patents, the term jug is generic for pitcher. There are relief jugs, ewers, and creamers all called jugs.

Vol. 18.1 Page 7 Ewer & Basin = Bowl and Pitcher #117338, Chinese Shape, T&R Boote, Dec. 8, 1858. Ewer and basin are word specific. A ewer is always a ewer (a pitcher from the toilet set) and a basin (sometimes spelled bason) is a bowl in the toilet set for washing). Sugar Box = Sugar Bowl #7504, Baroque shape by Saml. Alcock & Co., June 14, 1843. Wine Cooler #52530, Pond Shape Ridgway & Abington, June 30, 1848. Sarcophagus #62694, Hexagon shape, John Ridgway & Co., Sept. 29, 1849. A burial container for ashes. Filterer #110780, Girard Shape, Ridgway Bates & Co., July 30, 1857. An urn for purifying water.

Page 8 Vol. 18.1 NEWLY DISCOVERED NOMENCLATURE We were hoping that among the information found on the registry drawings and photos would be the names of the Shapes. Unfortunately, the names were on only a few of the Shapes. The registries were to identify and protect the Shape and had nothing to do with what the potters named them. This is why the same name shows up on different Shapes. On these next four pages we give you some of the new Shape names names that we found. GEM SHAPE #176916, Holland & Green, July 26, 1864, tea, toilet and table service. (This is a version of Hyacinth shape.) There were several makers of this Shape. BALTIC SHAPE #92768, (aka 12-Paneled Gothic) Venables Mann & Co., Oct. 4, 1853, tea service. Not at all like the Baltic Shape collectors know. Obviously, the Patents did not protect the names. AURORA SHAPE #134558, Holland & Green, Oct. 16, 1860, tea & dinner service. The registry picture above is almost useless so we are including a photo of a creamer.

Vol. 18.1 Page 9 CATANIA SHAPE #71843, Thomas Till, Sept. 9, 1850, jug. CAMBRIDGE SHAPE #73327, J. Wedgwood & Son, Nov. 4, 1850, jug. BLENHEIM SHAPE #264613, Dimmock & Co., July 29, 1872, dinner service. EUGENE SHAPE #281106, J. Dimmock & Co., Mar. 13, 1874, dinner service. CANNING SHAPE #176701, Hope & Carter, July 19, 1864, dinner service. GARABALDI SHAPE #136032, T&R Boote, Nov. 23, 1860, ewer & basin.

Page 10 Vol. 18.1 EUROPA SHAPE #58069, Mellor Venables (aka Vertical Panel Gothic), Feb. 2, 1849, soup tureen. ETRUSCAN SHAPE #40110, Copeland & Garrett, Jan. 9, 1847, vegetable tureen. LACONIAN SHAPE #48542, Baker & Till, Jan. 1, 1848, Gothic tureen. HILL SHAPE #134556, J. Clementson, Oct. 19, 1860, dinner service. IVY SHAPE #92018, Holland & Green, Aug.10, 1853, Panel Octagon with ivy handles, dinner service.

Vol. 18.1 Page 11 NINEVAH SHAPE #72057, Mellor Venables & Co., Sept. 21, 1850, soup tureen. NIAGARA SHAPE #87219, (aka Scalloped Decagon) Davenport Oct. 23, 1852, dinner service. POMPEII SHAPE #43916, Mellor Venables & Co., July 15, 1847, vegetable tureen. ONTARIO SHAPE #122959, William Adams, Oct. 12, 1859, dinner service. PRINCE OF WALES Sept. 16, 1863, tureens. #92364, Frances Morley & Co.,

Page 12 Vol. 18.1 SHOW & TELL Ernie showed our soup tureen which we were never able to identify until we came across it in the Kew records. It is a Pompei Shape soup tureen by Mellor, Venables, July 5, 1847. Some thought these Wedgwood foot forms were hunt cups because of their diminutive size. When Rick bought his from a dealer in England he was told it was a boot warmer. A very old Wedgwood catalog (see drawing at left), shows these pieces as sock blocks. Washed socks were put on these forms to dry. The smaller one is Rick Nielsen s and the larger is Ernie s. A recent find by Tom & Olga Moreland. This teapot shape has been designated Flowering Vine. We believe that it was made by Clementson Brothers, June 23, 1868, but there is no listing for that date in Cushion or a registry drawing. Susan Mussell brought this piece all the way from England. It is either a butter tub or a candy jar. As Geoffrey Godden once said It s a whatever you use it for dish.

SHOW & TELL Vol. 18.1 Page 13 Flower garden decoration. Olympic Shape toothbrush vase. Rick Nielsen brought four items. From upper left clockwise: Olympic Shape toothbrush vase by Elsmore & Forster. Has anyone seen the underplate? The very small pewter lidded jug has a design which is not recorded in Kathy Hughes Jugs books, but we are calling it a flower garden theme. Lemon shape sugar bowl which we suspect is what we call Texas Furnival by J.F. And to finish, a jug with wheat decoration and a band around the middle which has not been seen before. Lemon shape sugar bowl. Wheat jug 8 high. Harry Moseley s find is this lounging lion. Possibly by Crown Pottery Co., c. 1891. A Lemon shape or Texas Furnival teapot with a mark of W.G which to date information has not been found. Anyone out there have any ideas?

Page 14 Vol. 18.1 SHOW & TELL Janet Knorr comes across a lot of interesting pieces when stocking her shop in Gettysburg, PA. Abovet: A mug which looks like Pearl Sydenham is marked Cora Shape by Henry Alcock. Left: a 23 high pedestal. This piece probably doesn t have much age, but it s a very handsome item. Imagine a great pot of ferns on it. Bertica Vasseur brought two ham stands. It turns out that the marks which are displayed prominently on the top of the stands are advertisements for the companies. The stand on the right is shown with its original metal spike which was screwed into the center pillar and held the ham firmly. This is the only complete one we have seen so far.

SHOW & TELL Vol. 18.1 Page 15 Gloria Wetherby demonstrated this water server. She had the wooden base made to hold the piece upright because its oval shape does not let it stand upright. Originally it had a metal stand which used the knobs at both ends for tipping. Carl Gortzig is the proud owner of this fanciful desktop inkwell. There are two ink pots at the top and one is stained from ink. The lid, top center, fits over the ink pots and looks looks small here because of the camera lens perspective. Tom Lautenschlager brought a huge high relief jug which probably holds a gallon and a half of liquid. The photo at the left shows a child s creamer for comparison.

Page 16 Vol. 18.1 Boyd Payne has the great ability to find pieces of known Shapes that have never been seen. At the left is an Olympic Shape cookie or bread plate. At the right is a Nile Shape relish or pickle dish. John Yunginger brought this Framed Panels sugar. This shape has had many names over the years and has even confounded Jean Wetherbee. It has been known as Framed Arches and Framed Loops, but we are declaring it Framed Panels with Jean s approval. This shape, which has been known as 12-Panel Gothic, is actually Baltic Shape according to the registration information. Patty Hurt displayed the potty which is owned by Tom & Olga Moreland..

Vol. 18.1 Page 17 Collection Management Committee The WICA Collection Management Committee announces a program to assist members with the organization or dispersal of their ironstone collections. This assistance is provided at no charge by volunteer WICA members. Help can be provided by phone or e-mail for such things as shape identification or advice regarding computer software for organizing a collection. In-person help is also available for such things as photography, identification of repaired items, or actual preparation of an electronic inventory. For in-person help, the volunteer may request reimbursement of travel and/or lodging expenses. These volunteers are not functioning as agents of WICA and are not licensed to appraise the value of individual pieces or collections for tax or estate purposes. In addition, the volunteers agree not to purchase or receive as a gift any part of the collection with which they are assisting. Members who are seeking assistance should contact any of the members of the Collection Management Committee listed below to discuss their specific needs. Conversely, members who are willing to provide such assistance should request and complete a volunteer form available from John Yunginger (jyunginger@charter.net). A listing of volunteers will be posted on the WICA Members Only website later this summer. Finally, our committee will also be compiling and posting a list of auctioneers who are familiar with white ironstone china. This listing may be useful to members who are liquidating large collections or to executors of deceased members estates. WICA members are encouraged to e-mail John Yunginger with the names of such auctioneers in their home area. We are excited to offer these programs and look forward to receiving any comments or questions. Collection Management Committee John Yunginger, Chair Jane Diemer Bob Hohl Jill O Hara Barbara Tegtmeyer Don Wagner

Page 18 Vol. 18.1 I am looking for an "EARLY SWIRL" sauce tureen lid to complete a sauce tureen. Bertica Vasseur, 603-899-2886 or e-mail elmwoodct@aol.com -------------------------------------------------- SYDENHAM SHAPE -7 3/4 dia. round lid for stew tureen. Also looking for a 10 pitcher, mug, and butter dish in SYDEN- HAM SHAPE. Mike Hair, 717-263-0792 or e-mail mchair@embarqmail.com -------------------------------------------------- FLUTED GOTHIC soup tureen lid by James Edwards. Morning Glory coffee pot lid. Fluted Double Swirl (James Edwards) sauce tureen and lid. Jane Diemer, 302-475-7412, or e-mail pahbubba@comcast.net -------------------------------------------------- FORGET-ME-NOT soup tureen liner, FORGET-ME-NOT toothbrush liner, FULL RIBBED teapot lid, SPARE PARTS GIRARD SHAPE sugar bowl lid, GOTHIC SHAPE teapot lid, GRAND LOOP toothbrush vase liner, SHAW S LOV sauce tureen liner, MEADOW BOUQUET sugar bowl lid, NOSEGAY SHAPE sugar bowl lid. Rick Nielsen, 314-997-7963 or e-mail rn1132@earthlink.net -------------------------------------------------- Would like a creamer in: PORTLAND, MORNING GLORY, VICTOR or ATHE- NIA. Would like a teapot in: ADRIATIC, ARCHED WHEAT, PORTLAND or AT- LANTIC. Would like sauce tureens in: SCOTIA, MOBILE and PRIZE BLOOM. VINTAGE sauce and soup tureen lids, NEW YORK soup tureen lid. Bill Lancaster, 608-325-5724 or e-mail lancastermonroe@charter.net -------------------------------------------------- CERES SHAPE by E&F base to soap box and base to brush box, BASKETWEAVE large tray for cheese dome. Ernie Dieringer, 203-938-3740 or e-mail dieringer1@aol.com -------------------------------------------------- MORNING GLORY by E&F teapot lid, LILY OF THE VALLEY by Shaw creamer & sugar, ST. LOUIS SHAPE creamer, TRENT SHAPE by John Alcock creamer, PANELED GRAPE by JF sugar bowl, ORIENTAL SHAPE by Gross & Co. creamer, PRIZE PURITAN by TJ&J Mayer undertrays. We have 10 x 13 3/4 & 11 x 15. we need 12 x 16 with inside base size 6 7/8 x 5 3/8 Dave & Karen Klein, 563-514-7116 or e- mail rvman@mchsi.com -------------------------------------------------- FUCHSIA by J. & G. Meakin sugar bowl lid. Gerald Goar, 585-343-7619 COLLECTORS SHOWCASE Paul Millette and Russ Symons have a very personal reason for collecting Montpelier Shape. They live in Vermont, where Montpelier is the capital for one thing and the date it was registered in Kew is the same date their house was built, 1849. This six-sided tureen by John Ridgway & Co., is wonderful because it is the only one we know that is complete including its under tray. Its Kew Registration number is #54662.